herefishiefishie Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 Thanks for the interest everyone. I got these off Bill Smith, I was hoping he may of been right. The albinos are still only 4cm. Will just grow them up & see what they are like then. Here's a picof an albino pindani to compare. My little fella ps; How do I get the pics bigger? Frenchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akroyd Posted May 23, 2005 Share Posted May 23, 2005 I bought some of these as well, though not from Bill. I think they look a lot more like Pindani. I know albino Pindani did come through Bay in 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novafishy Posted May 24, 2005 Author Share Posted May 24, 2005 You can set the resolution size on your digital camera to a bigger size. somehow i dont think cameras even take pictures so small! try something like 640 x 480 pixels at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Morelia Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 Now those look like true albinos. The first pic in the topic is leucistic, similar to lutino, as Ged said. To be a true albino, an animal must have no pigment in any part of it. Red eyes alone don't make one Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anchar Posted May 24, 2005 Share Posted May 24, 2005 I think they look a lot more like Pindani. I know albino Pindani did come through Bay in 2004. The LFS that was selling those fish here as albino Caeruleus changed the name to albino pindani (socolifi) after a few customers questioned them about it Andrea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
herefishiefishie Posted May 27, 2005 Share Posted May 27, 2005 Thanks again... I'll post more pics of them up when they are bigger. I may as well grow them up & see what I get. Frenchy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViS Posted June 12, 2005 Share Posted June 12, 2005 Still haven't found any pics I'd consider as true albino yellows, but here is one that looks the goods as to being the yellows without any black in them: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrseby Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 Want some more yellow yellow pics i got heaps couple of generations and better colours but all the yellow yellows i had!!! made a great snack for my big fish IMO x saulosi = yellow no black x albino zebra = albino yellow have fun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeW Posted June 13, 2005 Share Posted June 13, 2005 There is a line of "black-less" line bred electric yellows from Victoria. They arent hybrids. That's not to say there isnt any hybrids.... but yellow only electric yellows have been successfully line bred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrseby Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Hi Yew There is a line of "black-less" line bred electric yellows from Victoria Mate i have had 4th generation yellow yellow breeding well b4 melb or any other state got em i have hundreds of pics to validate this ...mmm i will also add!!! Mine were all destroyed !!! due to the fact that i could not be 100% of what i had!!! yep 4 generation later i could not state 100% and i di not want to be associated, backlash and crap associated to breeding so called mutts ...xxxx To my knowledge and i have done heaps of research on the above mentioned!! and spent $$$ and time!! Their has never been exported or fund in the lake an all yellow yellow ? or Albino! sadly i 1 day might find out that i really did have a good thing ..until then !!! IMO all Yellow yellows and so called albino yellow are XXXXXXXXX XXXXXXXXXXXXXX If you need any further info go to http://perth-cichlid-forums.ipbhost.com/Ye...s-t885-s15.html http://www.cichlid-forum.com/phpBB/viewtop...der=asc&start=0 or send me an PM happy to help EDIT: SHOUTING is against T.O.U. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaZ Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 There is a line of "black-less" line bred electric yellows from Victoria Their has never been exported or fund in the lake an all yellow yellow ? or Albino! The yellows YeW speaks of are a line bred variant. That's why you wont find them in the lake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gav Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 i think seby knows what YeW meant BaZ, he said in his post he did 4 generations of selected line breeding himself to do the exact same thing. his point was that he couldnt be sure that it was a trait found in yellows, or if it was due to a cross somewhere back in the past that was brought out due to the selective line breeding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViS Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Seby seems switched on. Maybe instead of destroying the lot he could have destroyed half a dozen and counted the fin rays etc to see if they matched up with pure yellows or zebs, or were a combination (assuming pseudos and labs have different amounts of rays or other distinguishing features). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YeW Posted June 15, 2005 Share Posted June 15, 2005 Seby - My understanding was that someone had been doing this in Victoria (ie: started with NORMAL yellows and line bred them). It wasnt a "weird fry" in a batch experience. It was genuine line breeding. HTH - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrseby Posted June 16, 2005 Share Posted June 16, 2005 Hi guys Don't take any of this to hart...Not having a go at anyone. I will try to share my experience I had with these so called Yellow Yellows or no black yellows etc etc Thanks Gav spot on mate Yew the ones in melb prob came from the same batch or crosses of fish I got mine!! ..? The pet shop owner that sold them to me, Told me he had got the batch from over east so ..???? I spent a lot of time with these fish ..Just because they looked really deep yellow and a little diff ...but as u can see from the pics I posted and also from the ones above the yellows don't look right !!! A little long in the body and also I found large discrepancies with the yellow colours..Some intense yellows and some like in the pics a somewhat washed out whitish yellow. Mate I can go on and on …but I will say this !! I destroyed all mine because I could not be 100% sure they were a genetic throw back or a cross ..But with all the work I have done on them I can tell u this !!! 1-They yellow colors would vary greatly with each spawn. 2-The black barring would appear on a small % of the spawn and then the black pigmentation would be split/cut basically incomplete...like pics posted on another forum on another thred. of so called nice yellows (so if u have yellows with broken black barring, chances are they have come from the same or similar batch of yellows or crosses that these yellow yellows have) 3-As I did not breed the first yellow yellow ..Ie: I bought the 2 yellow yellows as yellow yellow (with none or little black on them)… (They were not a throw back from 2 normal I had. Thus I can never be 100% sure!!!) 4-All yellow yellow in the USA, Australia or any other country etc can not be traced back to original point of origin? Or 2 normal parents. Same as the so called albinos 5-Yes the ones I had were very nice and were breeding (true) if u can say that!! But at the end of the day why would I keep them if they were X. We have enough issues in this country with Xs already. Yes I spent lots of time and $$ but it was heaps of fun doing it, and man did I learn a lot about genetics and people!! In the prose’s some good some not so good!!! Yes Vis I could have done ray fin count etc etc but I don’t have the time money or interest anymore to persevere with fish/people and an issue already tainted…I was happy at the time to share and give away most of theses yellows I had and u can see this in my post but why waist anyone’s time on fish or issues that may lead to further conflict. I breed fish and carry on in the hobby cause I get a kick out of my new fry that I just bred or finally getting my zebras to breed and even my kribs breeding in my kids tanks …I’m certainly not into it for the crap or glory the few so called expert are ..Hence why they were destroyed. Anyway you guys make of it what u will ..I for one will not breed/buy/give etc any yellows with no ventral/dorsal markings or, yellows with no black or so called albinos. Happy to discuss any of the above in a constructive manner at length. And thanks to all of those who have enjoyed and gave constructive feedback on these post !!! Its grate to see these discussions and its never about who is right or wrong. Is it not that !!!This hobby should be !!! Thanks for taking your time to read the above Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterPleco Posted June 18, 2005 Share Posted June 18, 2005 Very nice fish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyme Posted June 24, 2005 Share Posted June 24, 2005 When we find `em, are we gunna call `em "electric whites" ? OnlyMe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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