chrisso81 Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 Hey guys, about a year ago I bought a small group of J. transcriptus 'gombe' and I now have a breeding pair. However, in that year I have seen so many different looking juli's labeled as transcriptus 'gombe' that I'm starting to wonder if I actually have the right fish. (dont worry, no fry have left the house) Are there lots of different localities of transcriptus? If possible, could somebody post a pic of the true 'gombe'? Here's a pic of my female: I really love these fish but I dont want to start selling something that isn't the real deal . Cheers, Chris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosco Posted February 12, 2006 Share Posted February 12, 2006 They look like my J transcriptus "gombe Island". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisso81 Posted February 13, 2006 Author Share Posted February 13, 2006 Cheers Rosco, you dont have a pic by any chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rol&Jas Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Hi, I have attached 2 pictures of mine ones. What I noticed that they have a blotchy checkerboard pattern and as they are getting older that pattern is a bit washed out at the abdominal area. I also attached a picture of my J. marlieri "Magara", Burundy. The fish is still young on the photo, but as they grow their pattern gets darker. Also, they have a more perfect checkerboard pattern with thiner lines compared to the transcriptus. J. marlieri females that are larger than males and can grow up to 14cm, while the transcriptus can only grow up to around 8-10cm max. Nevertheless, scientists keep reclassifying them under the same generic name, J. marlieri. Hope that helped Roland Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Salita Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Maybe this will help. hth, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisso81 Posted February 13, 2006 Author Share Posted February 13, 2006 Maybe this will help. hth, Jason ← Thanks Jason, this link is a classic example of the frustration I'm facing, the amount of differences shown in just those few photos is huge, the first ones appear to have very distinct vertical barring, but then other shots show fish with a mix of vertical and horizontal lines To add further confusion there's a transcriptus 'gombe' and a marlieri 'gombe' and they dont seem very different at all (where is the pulling hair out smiley?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Salita Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 My understanding of what they are saying is that the transcriptus gombe is actually a marlieri. not a transcriptus. Thats they way I read it anyhow. I have only ever seen them labelled as transcriptus though. My "transcriptus" 'gombe'...... have distinct vertical bars running all the way around their underside. Bare belly transcriptus are not real gombe in my opinion. but now, the 'real gombe' are supposedly marlieri..... Anyone else confused..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrisso81 Posted February 13, 2006 Author Share Posted February 13, 2006 Here I am just tryin to do the right thing by the hobby, and now look where its got me! The reason I asked this is because I spotted some trans gombe at an aquarium and they looked ten times nicer than mine! It got me thinking why are they so different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oakes Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 I thought i had a j.marlieri. Now i'm not so sure, those pics of trans look very similar to mine. Aren't marlieri supposed to grow much larger than transcriptus? Glenn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Salita Posted February 13, 2006 Share Posted February 13, 2006 Well, here is some more differences for you.... one of my pairs of 'gombe'. Call them transcriptus if you wish, the shops and the importer I bought them from did. But they are infact marleri 'gombe' according to cichlid forum.... Here is a crappy pic of one of my pairs. and some others from the same tank..... love that glass..... I might go read the photoshop thread now.... hths, Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosco Posted February 14, 2006 Share Posted February 14, 2006 here is one of the pictures I have looks very similar. This could be my male I am not sure> I had 2 bigger ones and one smaller one as a trio. I lost a bigger one when they decided to breed so I assume the bigger one is a girl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fins Posted February 28, 2006 Share Posted February 28, 2006 Hey guys, lets clear our heads for a moment According to Konings, there's one simple rule which differentiates between J. marlieri and J. transcriptus. J. marlieri has an additional horizontal bar on the cheek (below the eye), J. transcriptus does not. Chris, going by this rule, you have marlieri. Roland's pics 1 & 2 are true transcriptus, pic 3 is marlieri. Eddie's pics are marlieri. Rosco's pic is unclear Eddie's link to the cichlid-forum profile page appears to have both marlieri and transcriptus pics under this profile Keeping this rule in mind, there should be no more confusion. Locality however is another story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosco Posted March 1, 2006 Share Posted March 1, 2006 thanks Fins. I will get an better photo but I am 90% sure that mine has the extra mark on the cheek below the eye so I guess I have marleri as well. cheers rosco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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